NARST Discussion


Subject: theory base and Piaget
Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 14:55:08 -0700
From: Anton Lawson <anton1@asu.edu>
To: narst-l@narst.org

Dear List Serve Members,

I seldom get involved in list serve conversations but I could not help but be struck by the recent comments made by S. Magnusson regarding our lack of a theory base for inquiry science. On the contrary, I think we have a strong theory base. I also think that we have a strong empirical base. I would also take issue with the notion that Piagetian theory has been abandoned. In one sense, Piagetian theory, or at least extensions of that theory, have triumphed. Piaget, with his concept of equilibration, helps provide a cornerstone for "constructivism."

This is not to say that there are not serious problems with parts of Piagetian theory, but this does not mean that other parts are not still very helpful. In addition to the notion of equilibration, I think that generalizable reasoning patterns (aspects of procedural or operational knowledge) are very real. The stages may not be quite what Piaget envisioned, but I believe that stages or levels of intellectual development with respect to those reasoning patterns are very real.

Let's not toss out all of Piagetian theory. Let's just toss out the wrong or misleading part(s) and work to find (i.e., construct) better parts.

Anton E. Lawson, Professor
Department of Biology
Arizona State University
Tempe, AZ 85287-1501
USA

 


Subject: RE: theory base and Piaget
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 11:30:02 -0700
From: "Dewey Dykstra, Jr." <dewey@mac.boisestate.edu>
To: "narst-l" <narst-l@narst.org>

I'd like to add my $0.02 worth here, too. I expect many people know Tony Lawson and John Staver better than they know me. I started teaching right at the end of the 60's in high schools in the inner city of Cleveland and later in rural Maryland. While I liked teaching, there was something missing about it until I "discovered" Piaget. I had notes about him in my Intro to Ed course notebook, but it was not until Karplus, Renner and Fuller published an article in Physics Today advertising the Physics (Science) Teaching and the Development of Reasoning workshops, originated I believe by Karplus. I was back in graduate school in Physics at the time. In that article I saw what I was missing about teaching: a theory-base from which to operate. This was in 1977 or so. Since then I have held faculty positions in Physics Departments at a couple of universities and conducted research in physics education. I have worked developing my own understanding of the phenomenon of learning science and of how Piaget's ideas work. This has evolved for me into
something now that is fundamentally consistent with von Glasersfeld's radical constructivism and a teaching practice called "student understanding-driven" instruction, BUT it is all still based on Piaget's fundamental ideas.

There are many like Tony, John and myself. Most of them have works listed in the Bibliography: Students and Teachers Conceptions in Science Education, which can be downloaded from:

http://www.ipn.uni-kiel.de/aktuell/stcse/stcse.html

Some recent work that demonstrates a superior efficacy of practices developed within radical constructivism and growing out of the influence of Piaget's theory has recently been submitted for publication in the form of the manuscripts listed below:

In "pdf" format (large files):
http://www.boisestate.edu/physics/dykstra/WTK1.pdf
and
http://www.boisestate.edu/physics/dykstra/WTK2.pdf
OR word format:
http://www.boisestate.edu/physics/dykstra/WTK1.doc
and
http://www.boisestate.edu/physics/dykstra/WTK2.doc

It is pretty clear from the culminating Table (#8 in the second manuscript) that practices derived from this theoretical position, Piagetian/Radical Constructivist, result in far superior changes in measures of understanding of the phenomena than do traditional methods of instruction.

This is some of the latest work in a growing line of results from Physics Education Research (PER). Just a few others with lots of references to demonstrate this are below:

http://www.consecol.org/vol5/iss2/art28/
and
http://www.physics.indiana.edu/~sdi/ajpv3i.pdf

and the following which can be downloaded through most University Library on-line journal access: Lillian Christie McDermott, "Oersted Medal Lecture 2001: 'Physics Education Research-The Key to Student Learning'" American Journal of Physics -- November 2001 -- Volume 69, Issue 11, pp. 1127-1137

In PER we now regularly see pre-post effect sizes greater than 2 standard deviations (often not just a little bit greater) and we see normalized gains of 60% to 90%. We're not just talking statistical significance here, we are talking 98th-percentile differences in PER. Nearly all of this work is in practices that can easily be called "inquiry based" in which the emphasis, instead of being merely and superficially "hands-on," is on engaging "minds" in "elicit, compare,
resolve, apply" cyclic processes.

For some of us in research in science education, the theories have not changed. They have deepened. There is maturation. It is one thing for external forces to maintain a mantra that we are superficial and driven by fads. When we ourselves start repeating such a mantra, it will surely in the end be to the detriment of both our profession and of society.

It is important that we do the following:

1. Show our results to the public such as that already available to us as in the bibliography or manuscripts mentioned above and the other recent work. There is some pretty spectacular data available from PER and other branches of our field.

2. Make our voices known as to the nature of research. Berliner has
already started

<http://www.aera.net/pubs/er/pdf/vol31_08/AERA310805.pdf>

Much more is needed not just in our own journals but in the public sphere.

3. We need to take to heart the "lesson we are being taught" that society only knows science from the teaching we and our colleagues and those we prepare do. What is happening now seems to me to be clear evidence that from our teaching society neither really understands what we proport to teach nor understands the nature of research, a way of "coming to know" the world which is the essence of science. We should start doing something about this now as there is a very long lead time on this and we are so far in the hole already. I know some of us in PER are hot on this trail now.

Dewey
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Subject: discussion re Piaget
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 19:51:28 -0600
From: "Ronald G Good" <rgood@lsu.edu>
To: narst-l@narst.org

Nice to see the NARST listserv being used for something in addition to job listings and what NSF/Washington is or is not doing these days. Discussion of a research-based theory in science education is critical if NARST hopes to achieve its stated goal of improving science teaching through research. More use of the NARST listserv for critical discussions of this kind should be a goal of NARST.

Since the Piaget topic is related to some things I have worked on over the years, I'll offer a couple of thoughts to add to those of Lawson, Staver, et al. Piaget focused attention on epistemological issues using a biological lens. This was very different than the behavioral focus that was in vogue in the U.S. until the 1950s and I think he and Inhelder were very helpful in changing the focus for science and mathematics education. More than anything else, Piaget will probably be remembered for this. His lack of attention to the role of specific science subject matter and to social-cultural influences in learning was consistent with his emphasis on genetic epistemological issues.

The Piaget-inspired research during the 1960s & '70s and the misconceptions in science research of the 1980s and early '90s are, in my opinion, the most important knowledge bases for science education to use in order to move toward a sound theory of science education. Those two knowledge bases, in combination with the emerging neurosciences knowledge base, offer a realistic hope that a science of science education is possible. Whether NARST will have much of an impact on this emerging paradigm will depend on the extent to which NARST can commit itself to working toward a unified theory of science education. So far there seem to be few signs that this is likely to happen. Having serious and sustained discussions about important issues using the NARST listserv as a medium will be an encouraging sign.

In the meantime, I'm betting on FARSE and keeping my hooks sharp here in the Gulf.

Ron Good
Former JRST Editor
Current FARSE Laureate & Beach Researcher

 

Subject: RE: theory base and Piaget
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 15:04:57 -0500
From: "Richard J. Iuli" <riul@mail.rochester.edu>
To: narst-l@narst.org

I would like to toss in my two cents, as well. Having studied with Joe Novak I obviously have to add to the discussion the work of Ausubel, Novak and Gowin. Joe has always been, and continues to be, adamant that education research be theory-driven and education practice be grounded in empirical research. Perhaps the greatest failure of education over the course of the past 100 years has been the widespread neglect of this perspective in guiding research and practice. Like any robust theory, Ausubel's contemporary assimilation theory and Novak's meaningful learning theory explain much of what we observe in studying human learning. Obviously some of you will take exception to my claim, but this is not the forum to debate whose theory is "better." Rather my intent is to echo the comments of Anton Lawson, John Staver and Dewey Dykstra. We in the science education research community do have theories of learning that serve to guide science education research and practice. Furthermore, there are many fine science education researchers/ practitioners who operate from a theory-driven and, as Dewey stated, a "student understanding-driven," approach. The challenge to our science education research community is to hold one another accountable to these benchmarks of rigor. Perhaps the most critical step in this process is to make explicit the theory(ies) upon which our research and practice are built.

Richard Iuli
--
Richard J. Iuli, Ph.D.
Department of Biology
477 Hutchison Hall
University of Rochester
Rochester, NY 14627-0211
Phone: 585.273.5481
Fax: 585.275.2070
E-Mail: riul@mail.rochester.edu
http://www.rochester.edu/College/BIO/faculty/Iuli
 

Subject: theory base and Piaget
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 10:26:23 -0700
From: Anton Lawson <anton1@asu.edu>
To: narst-l@narst.org

Dear List Serve Members,

I would like to thank John, Dewey, Richard, Ron and others for their remarks concerning my previous message concerning the theoretical and empirical basis for inquiry science. Their comments were, I believe, right on target. I too am very concerned about educational fads and have worked to help the science education community develop a sound basis for educational practice. I strongly believe that we now have that basis - a much needed basis to inoculate us against the next fad that happens along. Of course, as stated, part of sustaining this effort is to be very careful about building on past progress (including both Piagetian and Ausubelian theory), rather than tossing the helpful parts away and starting from scratch.

Having said this, allow me to offer an example. As stated previously, I believe Piaget's concept of equilibration lies at the heart of the current constructivist movement and even at the heart of the current interest in and importance of conceptual change research with its focus on one finds it based on embryological and evolutionary analogies, not on neural physiology. Of course this is a weakness in Piagetian theory. But it does not mean that the theory is wrong. It just means that it is incomplete. In fact, when modern neurological concepts are incorporated, one finds that they compliment Piaget's thinking very well.

Also it should be noted that more recent research in brain growth shows that brains do grow in spurts and plateaus that correspond remarkably well with Piaget's stages. Of course this does not necessarily mean that intellectual development occurs in spurts and plateaus. But it does offer some support for the theory.

I have written a book, soon to be published by Kluwer, that discusses all of this in hopes of solidifying, updating, and expanding our much needed theoretical and empirical basis for inquiry science.

Lastly, I agree with John Staver that teaching by inquiry essentially means teaching by use of learning cycles.

Sincerely,
Anton E. Lawson, Professor
Department of Biology
Arizona State University
Tempe, AZ 85287-1501
USA
Phone: 480-965-2540
FAX: 480-956-2519
E-mail: anton.lawson@asu.edu
 

Subject: one more comment
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 12:29:41 -0700
From: Anton Lawson <anton1@asu.edu>
To: narst-l@narst.org

Dear List Serve Members,

Please allow me one more comment. Given that constructivism is currently so popular in educational circles and that its origin may be somewhat in doubt, the following exchange between J. Piaget and J. C. Bringuier might be of interest:

Bringuier: In fact, there's a single word for the whole of your work - a word I once heard you use; it's "constructivism."

Piaget: Yes, that's exactly right. Knowledge is neither a copy of the object nor taking consciousness of a priori forms predetermined in the subject; it's a perpetual construction made by exchanges between the organism and the environment, from the biological point of view, and between thought and its object, from the cognitive point of view.

In J.C. Bringuier (1980, p. 110) Conversations with Jean Piaget. Chicago: The University of Chicago Press.

Anton E. Lawson, Professor
Department of Biology
Arizona State University
Tempe, AZ 85287-1501
USA
Phone: 480-965-2540
FAX: 480-956-2519
 

Subject: Science, Theory and Science Education
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 14:39:37 -0700
From: David Geelan <dgeelan@ualberta.ca>
Organization: University of Alberta
To: narst-l@narst.org

Hi All

I've really enjoyed the discussion on the list over the past few days, around the theory base for research and practice in science education. As Ron Good noted, while it's great to see the job advertisements passing through (and great that there are so many opportunities for beginning science educators), it's also nice to have some discussion of substantive science education and research issues in the list.

Like Anton, John, Dewey, Richard and Ron, I value the legacy of Piaget, constructivist views about genetic epistemology, and the concepts of accommodation, assimilation and equilibration. I do believe that they offer one very important referent for thinking about students' learning in all subjects, but particularly in science, and about the ways we conduct research into that learning and the teaching practices associated with it.

I'm not sure this is what the authors intended, but I did catch a sense from some of the posts that Piaget (and neo-Piagetian approaches) is in some sense the 'best' and 'most scientific' theory base that we have available. The discussion, and Shirley Magnusson's original comment that sparked it, are in the context of the current US government's very strong push for only 'scientifically based' research to be valued and funded in education. I worry that by choosing to dub Piagetian theory as our 'best' scientifically based theoretical scheme in science education, we might be buying in to this mindset that really only values large scale, quantitative, 'predict and control' types of research.

Please note that I'm not characterising Piaget's work (or the huge body of research that has grown out of it) in that way - Piaget was a pioneer of qualitative and interview methodologies in research on cognition. What makes my spider-sense tingle a bit is the return of 'grand theory' - a single, all-embracing scheme within which work is expected to be conducted, and where work that does not fall within that scheme is not supported or valued.

Constructivist epistemology, and the descriptions and prescriptions of teaching that arise out of it, is one important plank of the theory base of science education, but in my opinion it would be very dangerous to make it the only one. Research like that of Jean Clandinin and Michael Connelly (1996, 2000) in narrative modes of rationality, Jack Whitehead (1989, 1998) in teachers' research into their own practices, Max van Manen's (1990, 1991) phenomenological work and Frederick Steier's (1995) work on reflexivity all have the potential to enrich our understanding of the complex environments in classrooms, but are in danger in the present discussion of being swept aside as 'fads', irrelevant to the 'main game' of Piagetian constructivist research. (I attempted to sketch some 'postmodern alternatives' to (Piagetian) conceptual change theories of student learning in this paper:
http://unr.edu/homepage/crowther/ejse/geelan.html ) In particular, action research and other practitioner research in single classrooms is enormously valuable, but appears nowhere on the radar of grand theory approaches.

The problem with the notion of 'scientific' theories in science education is that (like the discipline of academic psychology (see Polkinghorne, 1992)), there is always the danger that 'scientific' is limited to models that slavishly follow analogies from the physical sciences, rather than using methods and approaches from the human sciences. Jurgen Habermas' (1971) three 'human interests' - the technical (modeled from physical science), practical (human science) and emancipatory/critical (politics and freedom) - are a very important reminder that in order to deal with the rich complexity of lifeworlds - including those of teachers and students in schools - it is important to draw on the best tools available, from a variety of disciplines. The current calls for 'scientific' theories in education draw exclusively on Habermas' 'technical' interest - theories that can reliably (if not infallibly) predict and control results, and give clear relationships of cause and effect. While affirming the value of the on-going search for understandings of the relationship of certain actions on the part of teachers (and of society more broadly) to the learning of students, I think it is a fatal error to seek all the answers for the human science realm of education without using the appropriate methods and research approaches from the 'practical' interest.

I could be wrong, but I don't think any of the people who have written in support of Piagetian theory were advocating a purge of other theoretical bases - they were responding to Shirley's perceived dismissal of Piaget as a valuable theoretical base. But I think defending the *diversity* of our blend of theoretical perspectives is especially crucial when that richness and diversity is under threat from a government that has a particular very clear agenda about removing diversity. Without buying into the political sphere (too late!), I think that the demand for 'scientific' theories in education is intended to move the debate into very tightly controlled spheres of central planning, 'accountability' that is defined in terms of scores on standardised tests, and greater prediction and control of behaviour (of both teachers and students). I think it's very valuable to affirm the value of Piaget and constructivist theory, but very dangerous to buy in to the logic of 'scientific' (in a narrow, technical rationalist sense) theories of science learning and teaching.

Warm regards,
David Geelan

REFERENCES
Clandinin, D.J. & Connelly, F.M. (2000). Narrative inquiry: Experience
and story in qualitative research. San Francisco: Jossey-Bass.
Clandinin, D.J. & Connelly, F.M. (1996). Teachers professional
knowledge landscapes: Teacher stories  stories of teachers  school
stories  stories of schools. Educational Researcher, 25(3). (pp. 24-30)
Habermas, J. (1971). Knowledge and human interests. Translated by J.J.
Shapiro. Boston: Beacon Press.
Polkinghorne, D.E. (1992). Postmodern epistemology of practice. In S.
Kvale (Ed.), Psychology and Postmodernism. Thousand Oaks, CA: Sage.
Steier, F. (1995). From universing to conversing: An ecological
constructivist approach to learning and multiple description. In L.P.
Steffe and J. Gale (Eds.), Constructivism in education, (pp. 67-84).
Hillsdale, NJ: Lawrence Erlbaum.
Van Manen, M. (1991). The tact of teaching: The meaning of pedagogical
thoughtfulness. Albany, NY: State University of New York Press.
Van Manen, M. (1990). Researching lived experience: Human science for an
action-sensitive pedagogy. Albany, NY: State University of New York Press.
Whitehead, A.J. (1998). Developing research-based professionalism
through living educational theories. Address to the Educational Studies
Association of Ireland at Trinity College, Dublin, 27 November 1998.
http://www.bath.ac.uk/~edsajw/writing2.html

Whitehead, A.J. (1989). Creating a living educational theory from
questions of the kind, "How do I improve my practice?". Cambridge
Journal of Education, 19(1), 41-52.--
David R. Geelan, PhD
Department of Secondary Education
341 Education South
University of Alberta
Edmonton AB, Canada T6G 2G5
Ph. (780)492-5671, Fax (780)492-9402
http://bravus.port5.com
E-mail: david.geelan@ualberta.ca
 

Subject: theory-based science education
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 23:31:45 +1100
From: Michael Matthews <michaelmatt@optusnet.com.au>
To: narst-l@narst.org

Dear NARST colleagues,

I share the views of many that the recent list discussion prompted by Shirley Magnusson’s comments on the need for improved science education to be based on sustained and developed theory, has been refreshing and productive.

I would like to contribute two Australian cents worth to the topic. It seems to me that contributors to the discussion have over emphasized the contribution of learning theory to science education decision making. I am doubtful if theories of learning of any kind (Piagetian, neo-Piagetian, Ausubelian, Novakian, Behaviourist, Radical Constructivist, Cognitive-Scientific, etc) can provide significant guidance to science curriculum writers or teachers, let alone total guidance.

Theories of learning are simply neutral with respect to the truth of what is being learnt. The cognitive processes involved in learning nonsense, or completely erroneous ideas, are the same processes involved in learning sensible things or correct ideas. A theory of learning will equally account for the learning of the phlogiston theory of combustion, as well as the oxygen theory; it will account equally for the learning of Creation Science as it does for Evolutionary Science; it will equally account for the learning of Dialectical Materialism as it does for Democratic Liberalism. Learning theories are simply blind with respect to the truth of what is learnt.

Consequently the same learning theory that can be appealed to by teachers of phlogiston, Special Creation, and Stalinism as can also be appealed to by teachers of oxygen combustion, Darwinism, and Democratic Liberalism. Getting right about learning theory simply does not touch the question of what ought to be taught. Nonsense can be as meaningfully learnt or assimilated as anything else.

Learning theory needs to be linked to epistemology in order to provide guidance to science curriculum developers and teachers something that of course Piaget recognized, even if many who followed him did not. Learning theory alone cannot, for instance, be brought to bear upon the appraisal of the Portland Baseline Essays and their curriculum recommendations concerning multicultural science; but epistemology can be so brought to bear on their evaluation. Learning theory cannot differentiate the learning of Impetus Theory from Inertia Theory, they are both going to be learnt in the same way; an epistemological theory can identify which account of motion ought to be taught.

But even learning theory linked to epistemology does not provide complete grounds for the guidance of curriculum writers and teachers. What is needed is some normative theory of education, something that provides an ideal of what should be learnt in a science classroom that is purporting to educate students. Learning theory, no matter how well founded, does not give guidance on whether the history of science should be in a science programme; learning theory is mute about whether ethical dimensions of scientific practice should be addressed in a curriculum; learning theory does not tell us what is the conceptual structure of scientific disciplines and consequently what are the logical requirements for learning a discipline. What is needed, to use the title of a book of Joseph Novak, is a Theory of Education. But a theory of education is a normative matter and rests upon the idea of a good society and of the proper development of individuals. These are a long way removed from learning theory.

By all means we should try to understand how learning occurs, but this is far from providing a theory for science education. Clearly excellent science teaching has been occurring for a century or more with wonderfully inspiring and effective teachers being completely unable to enunciate any learning theory. The ability to articulate a learning theory is not even a necessary condition for good teaching, let alone a sufficient one.

Anyway, I have probably exceeded my two cents worth.

Michael Matthews
A/Professor Michael R. Matthews
School of Education
University of New South Wales
Sydney, 2052
AUSTRALIA
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phone: 61-2-9385.1951 (w)
61-2-9418.3665 (h)
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home page: www.arts.unsw.edu.au/education/matthews/
<http://www.arts.unsw.edu.au/education/matthews/>
Secretary , International History Philosophy & Science Teaching Group
www.ihpst.org <http://www.ihpst.org/>
Editor, 'Science & Education' journal
www.kluweronline.com/issn/0926-7220
<http://www.kluweronline.com/issn/0926-7220>
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www.arts.unsw.edu.au/pendulum/ <http://www.arts.unsw.edu.au/pendulum/>

 

Subject: Re: theory-based science education
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 09:08:26 -0500
From: "Steven W. Gilbert" <swgilbert@vt.edu>
To: Michael Matthews <michaelmatt@optusnet.com.au>, narst-l@narst.org

I am not sure I completely agree with Michael on this, but, then, it might be desirable to distinguish learning theory from broader educational theory. If we narrowly define the former as theories of how people learn across settings, the latter might be construed as as addressing what people learn in a formal setting, and why they should and do learn it. That is, educational theory might be thought of as what it is important for the individual to learn formally in the personal, cultural, social contexts and career ambitions of the learner. Sustained and developed educational theories are as important as learning theories, since they provide the framework for the curriculum of the schools;and such theory definitely deal with what it is important to learn: what is the best way to prepare students in science for life at each grade level? How should curriculum be organized?

Learning theory is not independent of educational theory: in some contexts, for some learners, tightly controlled and sequential curriculum stressing step-by-step success might be better than open inquiry; in others, less structured exploratory curriculum might be most beneficial. Both will be constructivist, if they are well taught, because constructivism is a philosophical model of how we learn, not a particular method of instruction.

All teachers have theories for how their students learn and these are based on their epistemological perspectives. It is not always necessary to enunciate learning theories but most wonderful teachers have developed theories which, in my experience, generally parallel those of learning theorists--at least the best teachers I have met. They are normally able to give a quite articulate view of what learning is about and reasons for doing what they do. Certainly it is possible to articulate a good learning theory without practicing in accordance with it, and it is possible to teach well and not be able to articulate a good learning theory; but I think the very best teachers are those who can both articulate a good learning theory and practice it. If formal learning theories (Piaget, etc.) have any meaning at all, they will show up in kind in the theories and philosophies of the best teachers. As teacher educators, I think that is what we should be aiming for.

 

Subject: learning theory and the "truth"
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 09:18:34 -0700
From: Anton Lawson <anton1@asu.edu>
To: narst-l@narst.org

Dear List Serve Members,

Sorry but I could not help responding to Michael Matthews. While Michael makes many good points, I for one do not think that the prior conversation should be construed as narrowly as Michael appears to have done with respect to "learning" theories. Certainly the theory that I have in mind is deeply rooted in epistemology/history/philosophy/psychology (and even neural physiology), and it most certainly involves decision making about what should be taught (as well as how it should be taught).

To keep it brief but to provide an example, consider evolution and special creation. The educational theory that I have in mind implies that both of these "alternative" theories should be introduced (among others). Students should then be asked to explore/generate the predictions that follow from each. Next they should consider the evidence and how well it matches or fails to match the alternative predictions. Only then should they be encouraged to come to a decision about which theory is the "truth" (read better explanation for present-day species diversity) based on the match/mismatch of predictions with evidence.

One could argue that such an instructional approach should have four happy consequences: 1) students should develop better reasoning/argumentative skills, 2) they should learn the "concepts" embedded in the theories (and of course the theories), 3) they should develop a better understanding of how science works and its strengths/limitations(NOS), and 4) they should gain confidence in their ability to do science.

Keep the arrows flying!

Sincerely,
Anton E. Lawson, Professor
Department of Biology
Arizona State University
Tempe, AZ 85287-1501
USA
 


Subject: a developmental psychologist's POV theory discussion
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 13:11:47 -0500
From: jennifer l cartier <jcartier+@pitt.edu>
To: narst-l@narst.org

I have roped my colleague Ellice Forman into the recent discussion about theory base in science education and she has given me permission to share her thoughts with the NARST members. I appreciate her taking the time to think with me (and all of us) about this very important set of issues and echo her thanks to Shirley for getting the conversation started in the first place! Please find Ellice's comments below.
Jennifer L. Cartier
Assistant Professor
University of Pittsburgh

Greetings to all,
I have been a lurker on the NARST listserv for the past few days and feel that I may have something to contribute as a developmental psychologist who has been working with mathematics educators for the past 15 years and is beginning to work with science educators.

First, I want to applaud Shirley Magnusson for raising an important issue facing all of us engaged in educational research: Do we have the theoretical, empirical, and methodological base to justify the national and state teaching standards in science? I was also impressed by the series of articles on educational research in the current Educational Researcher.Second, I am also sympathetic to the many messages that followed Shirley's message from science educators who endorse constructivism as a theoretical base and worry that Piaget's work has been forgotten or abused in the past twenty years. Nevertheless, I don't feel that an endorsement of Piaget's influence on many of us constitutes a sufficient response to Shirley's charge. Thus, I am also quite supportive of David Geelan's recent suggestion that we think more broadly about research paradigms and methodologies in this field.

Perhaps science educators could learn something from the projects with which I've been involved in mathematics education. About 5 years ago, Jeremy Kilpatrick received a grant from the National Science Foundation to support the production of an edited volume that will be published soon by the National Council of Teachers of Mathematics [J. Kilpatrick, G. Martin & D. Schifter (Eds.), A research companion to the NCTM Standards. Reston, VA: National Council of Teachers of Mathematics]. This volume presents a number of theoretical approaches that are seen as informing the current national standards (NCTM, 2000) in mathematics. Among the theories are: cognitive science, sociocultural theory (my chapter), and situated cognition. Drafts of the chapters were discussed at a conference organized by Jeremy in which some of the chapter authors presented their work to a small group of mathematics educators, many of whom were in charge of the working groups for the NCTM Standards 2000. The drafts were revised in light of those discussions and made available to the standards working groups. In this way, we hope the volume will help the field clarify the theoretical and empirical base for mathematics reform at the national level.

Another of my projects that was just completed was a co-edited special issue of one of the major international journals in mathematics education [Kieran, C., Forman, E., & Sfard, A. (2001). (Guest editors). Bridging the individual and the social: Discursive approaches to research in mathematics education. Educational Studies in Mathematics, 46(1-3)]. In this issue, we present research and theoretical articles devoted to an emerging field within mathematics education. This issue began as a Plenary Session at an international meeting of the Psychology of Mathematics Education (June 1999). This special issue addresses, in part, Shirley's question about connecting learning and argumentation.

In mathematics education, a number of people (Anna Sfard, Steve Lerman, Richard Lehrer, Richard Lesh, Paul Cobb, Carolyn Kieran, myself and many others) have been working on the methods for studying and theorizing about argumentation in complex social environments like classrooms and trying to develop the theories (from rhetoric, the history, philosophy, and sociology of science, linguistics, discursive psychology) necessary for warranting that work. [See Strom, D., Kemeny, V., Lehrer, R., & Forman, E. A. (2001). Visualizing the emergent structure of children's mathematical argument. Cognitive Science, 25, 733-773 for a recent example.]

Of course, since my knowledge of the field of science education is relatively limited, I have undoubtedly missed many important developments in that field. I do know of very interesting and valuable work by Rosalind Driver, Rich Duschl, Beth Warren, Ann Rosebery, Greg Kelly, and Charles Bazerman, among others that is similar to the work I've cited in mathematics education. Some of that work has informed my own research and that of my colleagues in the mathematics field.

I hope some of the work in allied fields can help science educators address the critical questions posed by Shirley.

Sincerely,
Ellice Forman
Professor, Applied Developmental Psychology
Associate Editor, American Educational Research Journal
Ellice Ann Forman
Department of Psychology in Education
University of Pittsburgh
5C01 WWPH
Pittsburgh, PA 15260
(412) 648-7022

 

Subject: theory-based science education
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 12:24:37 -0600
From: Joanne K Olson <jkolson@iastate.edu>
To: narst-l@narst.org

Dear NARST colleagues,

It's time for me to respond to Michael Matthews' perspectives regarding the role of learning theories in science education decision making. I agree with Tony Lawson that Matthews makes many fine points. While learning theories describe how people learn, no matter the "acceptedness" of the concept being learned, they do, in fact, deeply influence the teaching process. As Steven Gilbert points out, teachers do make decisions based on epistemological perspectives. Teachers need to understand learning theories, not for merely academic reasons, but because they do have implications for the pedagogy that is employed in a classroom. This is not to say that teachers who possess sophisticated understandings of learning theory automatically make informed classroom decisions, but more informed decisions can be made. Critical here is the understanding of the role of the teacher in the classroom.

One of Shulman's categories included pedagogical knowledge. Such knowledge
requires a theory base, of which learning theory is an important part. Colton & Sparks-Langer (1993) address this issue quite well. While I agree with Gilbert that effective teachers may not be able to articulate learning theories, educators are certainly more credible in this political environment (and when working with student teachers) when they can articulate why they do what they do. What we do in the classroom should be informed by how people learn, assuming that learning is what we're after!

That's my penny's worth from the cornfields!
Joanne

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Joanne Olson, Ph.D.
Center for Excellence in Science & Mathematics Education
Iowa State University
N157 Lagomarcino Hall
Ames, IA 50011-3190
(515) 294-3315
(515) 294-6206 (fax)
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Subject: Re: learning theory and the "truth"
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 17:00:54 -0500
From: "Mike U. Smith" <SMITH_MU@Mercer.EDU>
Reply-To: SMITH_MU@Mercer.EDU
Organization: o=Mercer University
To: Anton Lawson <anton1@asu.edu>
CC: narst-l@narst.org

Well folks, I tried to keep out of this one, but after Tony’s last posting, I found it impossible to do so. Although I realize that his posting uses evolution/ creationism only as an example and is not as the central point being made (and I CERTAINLY DO NOT want to start another useless evolution-creation debate here), I feel so strongly against what he is proposing that I must respond. (I will leave Michael to respond to the general argument Tony is making, though I do disagree as well with Tony that science tells us what "should be taught"--except of course that we should teach science and not non-science.)

Tony proposes having science students “consider evolution and special creation” as “"alternative" theories. . . Students should then be asked to explore/ generate the predictions that follow from each. Next they should consider the evidence and how well it matches or fails to match the alternative
predictions.”

Perhaps my rationale for opposing such teaching is best summarized in the following quotation:
“First and foremost, special creation and evolution are not alternative
scientific hypotheses or competing scientific theories. Encouraging
students to choose between the two therefore has a substantial potential
to confuse both the understanding of the nature of evolution and the
nature of science and scientific evidence. If the validity of competing
scientific and non-scientific positions is to be determined in this way,
the students might just as well vote on whether the germ theory or
demonic possession is the more acceptable “alternative hypothesis” for
the cause of infectious disease. The issue is not what students decide
is right, but what counts as science.”
Smith MU, Siegel H, and McInerney, JD. (1995). Foundational Issues in
Evolution Education. Science Education 4:23-46.

In simplest terms, debating evolution vs. creationism gives too much away. It inappropriately gives apparent scientific status to creationism and thus has the potential to confuse students about the nature of scientific theories and of science itself.

Secondly, Tony’s teaching activity asks students to “consider the evidence” for each, but there can, of course, be no empirical evidence for the claim that a supernatural being created living things. Again, therefore, students will be confused about what we mean by a crucial scientific term—this time, the term “evidence.”

Therefore, I feel that the potential of encouraging such classroom debate for causing substantial confusion about the nature of science is simply too high and such teaching should be avoided.

And that is my two cents worth! Thanks for listening.
--
Mike U. Smith, Ph.D.
Director of AIDS Education and Research
Professor of Medical Education
Department of Internal Medicine
Mercer University School of Medicine
707 Pine Street
Macon, GA 31207
 


Subject: Re: learning theory and the "truth"
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 15:24:01 -0700
From: David Geelan <dgeelan@ualberta.ca>
Organization: University of Alberta
To: narst-l@narst.org

Hi again everyone

I too want to avoid getting into a creationism/evolutionism debate on the list - I've seen the large areas of the Internet and of Usenet newsgroups that have been decimated by pointless flamewars. But there's something I've been wondering about for a long time, and perhaps this is the time and the venue to bring it up. I have to disagree with the approaches taken by both Mike and Tony to this issue, simply because in both cases the desired outcome seems to be the demolition of students' faith in any form of divine involvement in the creation of the world. I agree with Mike's point that the kinds of 'evidence' that might be offered for divine creation (or intelligent design) (and not necessarily just divine creation by a Judeo-Christian single god either) are qualitatively different from the kinds of evidence that are relevant toestablishing the claims (to utility, rather than truth, I would suggest) of evolutionary theory, and also to agree with his contention that setting the issue up for debate by students is confusing for them, because they are being asked to argue between two positions that draw on different kinds of evidence.

The point I've been pondering, though, is this: Posts to this list very regularly relate to creation/evolution issues, or more recently to intelligent design perspectives, and the default belief seems always to be that any alternatives to evolution should be resisted with all our strength. At the same time, there are some fantastic, and very laudable, efforts in multicultural and aboriginal science education, include work by people like Bill Cobern and Glen Aikenhead, that seek to draw the stories, myths, explanations and ideas of native cultures - cultures in which the spiritual and the materiel are much less split apart than they are in western culture - into the science classroom. This is an essential process if science education is not to further alienate and disadvantage people in developing countries, and often indigenous peoples in western countries. It's an essential antidote to colonialism and the imposition of western values on other cultures.

At the same time, despite the fact the perhaps half of all our students in North American schools have some form of Christian background, and that many of them have a strong culture and belief in some form of divine involvement in the development of earth and life (and it's important to remember that there are a broad range of perspectives available, ranging from young-earth creationism through old-earth creationism and theistic evolution to atheistic evolution, not a simple dichotomy), we are quite happy to seek, in the name of science, to seek to extinguish this cultural system with its essential myths, or at least to completely suppress it within the science classroom. If we were to do this to Inuit or Cree beliefs, we would rightly be accused of cultural imperialism - why is it OK to do it to Christian beliefs?

Of course, there are different circumstances of power and social and economic advantage at play here - this could sound like the plaint of the privileged. But I do think it's a crucial issue for science education: if having his/her culture suppressed or attacked is a bad thing for an Australian Aboriginal child, why is it a good and desirable thing for that child's white Christian classmate? There is no easier way to alienate children from their science learning than to attack the deeply held beliefs that form the core of their faith, family and community, or to make them choose between those beliefs and their science lessons at school.

Warm regards,
David Geelan

 

Subject: Re: theory-based science education
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 17:25:21 -0500
From: Shirley Magnusson <smag@umich.edu>
To: narst-l@narst.org

Dear Colleagues,

What a pleasure to see the thoughtful messages about the important question of the theory base in science education. Thanks should go to Tony Lawson for starting the conversation in that direction, as my original posting raised a question about the research base in science education, by which I meant the empirical base. Of course, questions of theory are (or should be) at the root of the empirical base, and I think that Tony's response in that direction speaks to the central role that theory plays in his own thinking -- something that has always been evident in his work and is a great strength. I hope this important
exchange of ideas continues on the list with additional thoughtful responses that provide opportunities for us all to reflect upon the ideas guiding our individual work and work in the field of science education in general. Toward that end, I would like to pose additional questions for consideration.

Ron Good made some important points in his message that I want to return to. I would like to frame them as questions.

(1) Since Piaget contributed both epistemological as well as theoretical ideas about learning, to what extent are claims about the Piagetian basis for the field or specific approaches to instruction about the value and validity of his epistemological views versus his theoretical views?
(2) Considering the evidence of the domain-specificity of learning, how does one interpret Piagetian theory that represents cognitive structures as domain general?

I'm glad to know of Tony's book, and perhaps he addresses these issues. In addition, I thought some of you might be unaware of and might be interested in knowing about work in a different field that has bearing on these questions, including influencing Piaget himself regarding the applicability of some of his ideas.

In a 1995 paper by Barbara Rogoff and Pablo Chavajay, they note that "when scholars began examining Piagetian tasks in other cultures, theyfound that culture was related to Piagetian concepts in ways that led Piaget to revise his stance on the generality of the formal operational stage and led to interest in understanding the role of familiarity (emphasis added) in concrete operational thinking." (p. 860) A 1972 paper of Piaget's is cited in which he is described as concluding that the "achievement of formal operations was tied to people's experience with the specific kind of scientific thinking that this stage focused on (such as in high school science classes) rather than being culture free and domain free." (Ibid)

Piaget, J. (1972). Intellectual evolution from adolescence to adulthood. Human Development, 15, 1-12.
Rogoff, B. & Chavajay, P. (1995). What's become of research on the cultural basis of cognitive development? American Psychologist, 50(10), 859-877.

For me, the Rogoff and Chavajay paper, which traces the history of development of research on cognition and culture from a cross-cultural perspective [and provides information about a number of studies in which apects of Piagetian theory were examined with cultures around the world], is an important reminder of an important distinction between research in the natural and social sciences: the importance of context. In the natural sciences, relationships are expected to hold regardless of context; in the social sciences, the nature of the context is the key to understanding what occurs. David Geelan wrote about this type of issue much more elegantly (and knowledgeably) than I could, and I appreciated the reminder about the additional issues that he raised. Even so, I want to return to the original question I raised about the research basis for inquiry-based instruction. My parenthetical comment about theory was meant to indicate my sense that there was an absence of specification of the theory base in studies in the field these days (in this country). There used to be many studies that explicitly examined the implications of Piagetian theory for science teaching and learning. Now they are rare. I took that to mean that the theory had been abandoned by the field. It seems that several community members think otherwise. My questions then are:

(3) what does the community see as its theory base at this point in time (and that is not meant to suggest the need for a single or "grand" theory).
(4) given a particular theory base that is pertinent to issues of instruction, what is the empirical base regarding its application in the context of inquiry-based instruction?

The Learning Cycle has been proposed as the approach to use for inquiry-based instruction. However, there are several versions of the Learning Cycle, some of which would appear to have contradictory phases: whether students invent concepts or teachers introduce them. In the former version, which I think is more representative of how the Learning Cycle is thought about, the cultural basis of the production of scientific knowledge raises the question of how students are expected to generate or invent the targeted scientific knowledge. It does not seem that the Learning Cycle specifies the cultural conditions that would seem to be necessary to ensure that students will develop the targeted knowledge/reasoning. (5) Do others agree? What other ways do members think about this issue?

I raise these questions not to criticize the idea of a learning cycle approach, but to suggest that our knowledge has grown beyond Karplus' initial ideas, and it would seem important to advance our learning cycle models to incorporate that additional knowledge. Perhaps that is what John Staver intended to indicate by mentioning the BSCS 5E model. However, if we're now talking about utilizing the 5E model, that again raises the question of its empirical basis. To what extent do we have empirical evidence for learning benefits of the 5E model over the three-cycle approach of Karplus or Renner's learning cycles? Are all five phases necessary; that is, have studies been conducted that examined whether similar results could be obtained with fewer phases? Has the 5E model been compared to other approaches that have the same learning goals?

As many of you know, Ken Tobin, Deborah Tippins, and Alejandro Gallard were authors of a chapter in the Handbook for Research on Science Teaching that included a review of studies of the learning cycle [there is also mention of . There are two features of that section of the chapter that I think are pertinent to this conversation:

* early studies of the learning cycle looked at the extent to which all the phases were necessary and whether the order was important [so shouldn't the same thing be examined relative to the additional phases of the 5E model?]

* a later study that compared the learning-cycle approach to a systematic-modeling approach (not modeling as in scientific modeling of the world, but modeling as in teacher modeling of desired thinking and action) found that the systematic modeling approach was more effective in "leading to improvements in achievement and formal reasoning." (p. 77) [how do we account for this result?]

Furthermore, I am struck by the lack of specification about what happens in the phase of the learning cycle that would seem to result in it being learning via inquiry: the concept invention phase. In fact, in the original Karplus model, it appears that this phase is not invention, but concept introduction (by the teacher), which is quite different. Osborne and Freyberg (1985) presented a nice comparison of teaching sequences (pp. 101-105) that compared Renner and Karplus versions of the learning cycle to two other models (by Nussbaum and Novick, and Erickson) that more explicitly indicated (in the titles of their phases) aspects that connect them to Piagetian theory: the intent to provoke disequilibrium and accommodation (assuming the presence of alternative views) to a new concept. I wonder to what extent empirical studies of the learning cycle determined which version was being utilized, and whether there was fidelity to the critical aspect of provoking disequilibrium. Furthermore, how many studies involved a comparison of student learning outcomes from a learning cycle approach versus other inquiry-oriented approaches?

Again, the intent here is not to criticize views about the viability of a learning cycle approach, but to question to what extent we have engaged in research (or theory-building) that provides very specific information about what works and why. It would seem to me that the probability of provoking disequilibrium is greatly facilitated by providing particular kinds of experiences for students (isn't this the origin of the notion of discrepant events)? If so, then there is a curriculum component that is at play as well as an instructional one. I wonder if that is part of the issue that Steve Gilbert was raising. In addition to learning theories there are theories of curriculum, theories of instruction, theories of schooling, etc. How do ideas from these various dimensions intersect and interact? How do we build general knowledge in the field of science education when there are all these different aspects that impinge upon learning?

Finally, I want to return to an important comment made by Ellice Forman in relation to David Geelan's posting. She characterized his suggestion as a call to think more broadly about our research paradigms. And I will be so bold as to suggest that her use of the plural form of paradigm indicated her expectation that several paradigms would be the norm in a field. If I'm accurate about that, then in this she echos a view Shulman (1986) wrote about in his chapter in the 3rd edition of the Handbook of Research on Teaching entitled "Paradigms and Research Programs in the Study of Teaching." Shulman wrote of Kuhn's influence in leading scholars to think of the role of paradigms in guiding the activity of research communities. Whereas Kuhn described a mature science as being a case where one paradigm is dominant at a time, Shulman indicated agreement with Merton's view (for the field of sociology) of "the superiority of a set of competing paradigms over the hegemony of a single school of thought." (p. 5). Thus, the argument is that in the social sciences, a mature science is indicated by the presence of multiple research paradigms, some of which may be competing. Shulman even quotes Feyerabend (1974) as being in support of this view as indicated by an essay entitled "How to be a good empiricist: A plea for tolerance in matters epistemological" "You can be a good empiricist only if you are prepared to work with many alternative theories rather than with a single point of view and 'experience.' This plurality of theories must not be regarded as a preliminary stage of knowledge which will at some time in the future be replaced by the One True Theory."

What is the view of this community regarding multiple research paradigms? Do folks agree with Shulman, Merton, Feyerabend, and several folks who have posted messages indicating this view? If so, where does that leave us in developing as a field? In responding to the current climate of SBR?

Respectfully,
Shirley



 

Subject: inquiry and creationism
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 16:04:33 -0700
From: Anton Lawson <anton1@asu.edu>
To: narst-l@narst.org

Dear List Serve Members,

I suppose that I should not have used evolution and special creation as an instructional example. The context never fails to bring out emotional responses. Nevertheless with regard to Mike Smith's comments, I suppose it depends on how you define the term theory. I define a theory as an explanation for a broad class of related phenomena - regardless of the amount and kind of evidence in its favor - or evidence that may be contradictory. In as much as special creation attempts to explain present-day species diversity (i.e., What caused the diversity of present-day life forms? Answer: God did it.), special creation qualifies as a theory.

Anyone interested in details about how to pit evolution and special creation theories against one another as suggested in my prior posting can find them in Lawson, (1999) A scientific approach to teaching about evolution & special creation. The American Biology Teacher, 61(4), 266-274.

I wonder if anyone (Mike?) would object to an inquiry teaching approach if described in the following way/context:

To keep it brief but to provide an example, consider a pendulum's weight and the length of its string and their possible effect on the pendulum's period. The educational theory that I have in mind implies that both of these "alternative" hypotheses should be introduced (among others). Students should then be asked to explore/generate the predictions that follow from each (e.g., If...the period depends on the weight, and we vary the weight on two pendulums and keep other variables constant, then...the two pendulums should swing at different speeds (prediction). Alternatively, if the period depends on the length of string, then...the two pendulums should swing at the same speeds (alternative prediction)). Next they should consider the evidence and how well it matches or fails to match the alternative predictions (e.g., the two pendulums with different weights swing at the same speed. This is a result that does not match the predicted result based on the weight hypothesis and the test). Only then should they be encouraged to come to a decision about which hypothesis is the "truth" (read better explanation for differences in pendulum swing speeds) based on the match/mismatch of predictions with evidence (the weight hypothesis is not supported).

Note; causal hypotheses, such as those mentioned above, and theories do not differ in kind (both are explanatory). Rather they differ in degree - theories being more complex, more general and more abstract. But I would argue that the instructional approach to both is essentially the same. The key point being that instruction should not ignore ideas that students bring to the classroom.

Sincerely,
Tony

Anton E. Lawson, Professor
Department of Biology
Arizona State University
Tempe, AZ 85287-1501
USA



Subject: Re: learning theory and the "truth"
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 20:57:29 -0500
From: David Haury <haury.2@osu.edu>
To: narst-l@narst.org

And they said it was just a theory..

Dear Michael, Tony, Mike, David, and other seekers of "truth",I just returned a few hours ago from a meeting of the Ohio Board of Education where the new science curriculum standards were adopted, including this "indicator" for grade 10 life science. Students are expected to:

"Describe how scientists critically analyze aspects of evolutionary theory.(The intent of this indicator does not mandate the teaching or testing of Intelligent Design.)"

After a year of wrangling, meetings, debates, and negotiating, this is the only spot in the new state science standards where the idea of "intelligent design" can officially wedge its way into the science curriculum.

I present this as an example of what happens when our academic yearning to be clear, precise, and epistemologically correct meets the political forces that press for "fairness", "openness to alternative views," and "letting students decide for themselves." Competing notions of seemingly simple words such as "science,""theory," and "critically analyze" made it necessary for the Board to be explicit in stating that this is not a "requirement" that non-science views be examined alongside scientific theories, but clearly it is allowed.

So, how would a theory of instruction (education just seems to me like too broad a domain for a single theory; it would be like trying to construct a theory of biology.) help me in this instructional task? At a minimum, it seems to me, a theory of instruction would include such elements as the following: (a) acknowledgement of pre-existing ideas and experience base related to the topic, (b) acknowledgement that people learn by constructing meaning through assimilation and accommodation, etc., (c) acknowledgement that each knowledge domain has its respective discourse community, modes of reasoning, values, etc. that need to be honored,(d) acknowledgement that students each have metaphysical beliefs and personal heritages that must be respected, and (e) effective instruction fundamentally depends on actively engaging student minds. There would undoubtedly be more elements to a comprehensive theory of instruction, and they would be more precisely delineated, but this will hopefully suffice to make a couple of points regarding the role that theory, including learning theory, can guide instruction.

Element (a) above means that I have to assume that certain percentage of students in my class will already have notions about origins and diversity of life, and I would be operating outside my theory of instruction if I ignored that assumption. Element (b) contains the notion that individuals must be confronted with the inadequacy of their ideas for them to be receptive to new ideas that I intend to raise. Element (c) implies that within the knowledge domain of science, there are certain epistemological perspectives that I must honor, such as sticking to naturalistic explanations (theories) in accounting for phenomena. This is where my instructional theory would take me down a different path from that of Tony, since, as Mike points out, one of the hallmarks of creationist ideas is that they make an appeal to a non-material entity, so there is no way to test their "hypotheses". I would, however, do an "epistemological examination" of creationist ideas to illustrate why they do not "count" as scientific ideas. Element (d) would require me to pay particular attention to differentiating between natural explanations (epistemology) and notions about reality (metaphysics). Students must learn somewhere along the line that the very reason science can be practiced so successfully by people of all cultures and religious traditions is that it is metaphysically silent. Science isn't for or against God; it is neutral on the matter. Finally, element (e) implies that I have to introduce this topic in a way that gets attention, generates curiosity, or otherwise makes it a relevant topic. For this reason, I would likely chose to emphasize how we use the theory of evolution today in medicine, food production, control of diseases, etc. I might even ask students how evolution has helped them recently.

Sorry to take up so much space to convey my thought here, but I absolutely agree that theories about learning and instruction must guide our actions. Such theories cannot be unidimensional, however, omitting consideration of cultural contexts and metaphysical frameworks. In fact, wouldn't it be a hoot if we could manage to help people understand that it may have not been a coincidence that the Reformation (ah, the big Reformation, not science reform) and the scientific revolution occurred concurrently. Don't both of them have to do with the value of bringing meaning to personal experience?

Anyway, that's another long discussion.

It is long past time for dinner here.

David